A witness had made known that the “mother” buried her 9-year-old daughter with her tablet. Following the revelation of the show, the investigator investigating the murder of the child, ordered the removal of the electronic device from the grave.
The first results from the forensic laboratories seem to show the mother’s search for dangerous drugs, a few days before Georgina’s death.
According to the report, Google alerts were detected with similar ketamine products. Similar searches by the accused can be found on her mobile phone.
The second part of the interview of Manos Daskalakis, father of the children, was shown on the show.
“He has never been in love with this woman,” he said, referring to Roula.
The “third person”, to whom he referred to the interrogator as the reason for his separation from his wife, spoke to “Tunnel”.
“I wish I had never met her,” he said characteristically.
Other conversations of Aggeliki Nikolouli with the accused mother were presented on the show.
Roula’s anger over her husband’s parallel relationship, “forgiveness” and threats…
Forensic professors from Germany and Thessaloniki spoke exclusively in the “Tunnel” about the cases – “carbon” with that of Patras and how they “enlightened” them.
What the “third person” says in “Tunnel”…
The “Tunnel” located and spoke with the “third person” who allegedly entered between Manos and Roula, before Iris’s death.
“Where can I imagine what was happening? Not just me. No one could have imagined such a thing. I did not believe it at first. I say okay. This can not be done. Until we finally got to this point. I have fallen from the clouds. If I were to go back in time, I would never have wished I had met this girl. He had told me that Manos had left the house. The classics, the ones he comes out and says now. That “Manos is elsewhere”, that “we are divorced”… these. “Do not be afraid of him” and something like that, he would tell me. That they are not going to find them again. These and then I learned that they are together again. “I feel sorry for everything and especially for the children who went missing,” said the man who wished to remain anonymous.
“I will hand over Roula’s audio to Justice…”
In the second part of his interview with Angeliki Nikolouli, Manos Daskalakis talks about everything.
“The doctors asked Roula to see a psychiatrist. Did you go and say “are you going to drive my wife crazy”? the journalist asked the father of the three unfortunate girls, admitting it himself, but justifying his act:
“Nothing came to my mind then and we continued our life after the hospitals. “Since the doctors had all taken it in stride, why are we all going to get our tails out now, then what did they do?”
The father, in the persistent questions of Angeliki Nikolouli, insists that he had not realized the slightest thing about the mother of his children for the last two and a half years.
“If I was wondering, would I have left them like this? Would I support her to the end? I contacted the doctors in charge to find out if the problem was genetic, as Roula told me, but I could not find them on the phone. “She told me that there are further examinations, which are delayed.”
He describes his feelings as soon as he was informed of the death of the six-month-old Iris, but also the reactions of his wife.
“I lost them completely, I fell down, my legs could not hold me and Roula was tearing. He cried incessantly. ”
He also gives answers about the cloth with the blood that was found in the cradle of Iris.
He claims he was devastated by the deaths of his two children, but broke out while he was at work, as he did not want to show his grief in front of Georgina.
“I told a friend of mine that I was not feeling well, that I wanted his help. Going to a doctor, I do not feel well because I lose control, I had a lot of nerves. “Roula was constantly crying when I called her.”
The husband of the accused did not fail to mention the audio, threatening message that he has at his disposal and it seems that he is “burning” Roula Pispirigou.
“Yes, if necessary it will be given to Justice. “In this message, she speaks threateningly about me, not about the children,” he said.
“There has never been love with this woman…”
The father also referred to the special relationship he had with his eldest daughter, Georgina.
“Georgina was very smart, a child I can not describe. “From the first day he was born, she was attached to me”, said Manos Daskalakis, with the journalist asking him:
“Didn’t her mother like that and she wanted to use it against you at some point?”
“I do not know,” was his reply.
“Georgina was 8 years old and if it was an attempt at suffocation or anything, she could react. “I can not imagine what happened that day.”
Regarding the substance ketamine, which caused the death of the 9-year-old girl, but also the way it was procured, he clarified that he and his father could not have any relationship.
“It simply came to our notice then. Everything will be searched by those in charge of what is said about the pharmacy, where my father works. “None of Roula’s family belongs to the drug addicts’ area, so he could not have gotten her from there.”
According to him, he and his wife had stopped connecting things for a long time and that, for the sake of Georgina, they stayed together again, when he was marked by quadriplegia.
“From Georgina onwards we decide to be together for the child and give everything for her. We wanted to live a normal life as if nothing had happened. There was never a love affair with Roula. It never crossed my mind that such things were happening. Angeliki is not easy. ”
Roula: Then I forgave him and accepted him back…
Unable to contain her irritation, Roula spoke to Angeliki Nikolouli, about her husband’s relationship, but also about an incident that angered her.
“He had a relationship with this woman six months ago and her boyfriend discovered them. He threatened Manos, he got scared and came and told me. I did not fight with him, I forgave him and accepted him back. ”
Roula was last angry with the other woman, who, as she believed, had found her again with Manos.
“Yesterday he was with her, I heard a woman on the phone. God come down, you are not doing me any good. Manos is not going to say what he wants; he was at her house in Athens. He is shy Μά Manos told me “you do not care about my personal life”, so that the other would believe that he was talking to a journalist. “With what appetite do they do what they do, that is, he did not lose children?”
“A man who has lost three children and his wife is accused, e does not go with another… With what mind goes the other with the married, that his wife is accused even in America that he has killed her children…”
“Would I keep Georgina’s mouth shut?”
Roula wanted at all costs to convince Angeliki Nikolouli that she could not have caused in some way what tragically happened to her three children.
When asked by the journalist if she agrees to meet for a live interview and not by phone, she took care to avoid this meeting in any way, while insisting on the “rare gene”.
“Once the toxicological ones come out, yes, then we can meet. “I believe in the rare gene because deaths were collected.”
She appeared angry about what happened to her and insisted that it was not Georgina who found her sister dead, as a witness had told the “Tunnel”.
“I’m not only wondering, I’m angry. Great injustice this thing. I hope something good comes out and other children are saved, only that. “If Georgina had found her sister dead, she would have said it, you can not keep a child’s mouth shut.”
Roula also referred to her fourth pregnancy, before Georgina’s death.
“I became pregnant after the death of Iris, but I had an abortion because that’s how the doctors encouraged me. It would be immature to keep it. “You are not playing with the lives of children.”
New facts about the couple’s housewife…
New facts about the investigation into the death of the couple’s landlord, Eugenia Koutra, were reported to “Tunnel” by the lawyer of her relatives, Andreas Theodoropoulos.
According to him, after the woman’s death, they received her pension from an ATM of the National Bank. As he characteristically said, the fact was confirmed by EFKA.
“Who received the pension of the deceased? Was he the one who had the power of attorney in his hands? ” wondered Mr. Theodoropoulos.
At the same time, he noted that Manos Daskalakis was responsible -according to the power of attorney- for the medical treatment of the 70-year-old woman, something that according to her relatives, never happened.
“We have submitted a request for the exhumation of the landlady to find out the cause of her death,” he added.
Patras 1965: The murder in the family that marked Roula…
This is not the first time a member of the Pispirigou family has been charged with murder. An untold tragedy marked and shocked Patras 57 whole years ago. When the accused’s grandmother died a violent, suffocating death from her estranged husband. He was 20 years old and she was 18. Her name was Sotiria and she was called Roula, like the mother of three dead children.
The unfortunate Sotiria Pefani met her husband when she was 15 years old. Her parents reacted and reported him to the Police. He was accused of seducing a minor and taken to Patras prison.
In order to avoid a possible conviction, he married the young girl on February 27, 1962 in the Transfer Department. A few months later, their child was born, Andreas, Roula’s father.
Their married life showed problems. According to the publications of the time, he was pathologically jealous of her, he was obsessive and constantly watched her, believing that he had a parallel relationship. His passion would be the motivation for what he would do next…
While they are at odds and with the divorce pending in court, Panagiotis insisted amid tensions and quarrels over reunion, but receiving Sotiroula’s denial. Their last meeting would be fatal. Refusing to accept the rejection from her and her family, he strangled her until she exhaled into his arms. The savage crime makes headlines.
Panagiotis Pispirigos was sentenced to life imprisonment, but was released 15 years later, in 1980, for good manners, returning to his place of origin.
The victim of the family tragedy is the 14-month-old boy who was left behind. When he married and had his first girl, he named him Roula, thus honoring his murdered mother, Sotiria. This is the woman who today is facing the heaviest accusation, that of the murder of her daughter. The “Tunnel” talked to him.
“My father was tried, convicted and released with extraordinary conduct and with the signature of the then President of the Republic. From the first day he was released, he sought to find me and that meant a lot to me. “He did not care, as I do not care now for my children and grandchildren.”
Almost six decades later, the show searched for relatives of the unfortunate Salvation and located its first cousin. She remembers this tragedy like a fairy tale told to her by her own.
The “Medea” of Kordelio who killed her children in the hospital…
At a time when the public is watching in shock the developments in the Patras case with three children dead, the “mother” in prison and the father now in front of her, in Thessaloniki the elders remember a forgotten story with incredible similarities.
In the distant 1985 Katerina, a 26-year-old mother, drugged two of her three children, aged 6 and 7, and was arrested shortly before doing the same to the third.
“Medea” from Kordelio, the horrible killer, the cold and unrepentant pedophile as the headlines of the time wrote, used to seduce her children to death with barbiturates, even during their hospitalization where they were treated. Their mother told the doctors that they suffer from epilepsy.
The emeritus professor of forensic medicine and toxicology at the Aristotle University, Dimitris Psaroulis, was the medical examiner who necropsied the first of the unfortunate children and the one who would finally solve the riddle of the case. When he took over the case of 6-year-old Maria, the information he had at his disposal was scarce and the cause of death was unclear.
But immediately after, 7-year-old Zisis followed. The child was admitted to hospital a few days after his sister’s death and also slept almost permanently. The little boy dies with the only man next to him his 26-year-old mother. And there the cause is unclear.
Within about three months and just a week after burying her second victim, she began poisoning her third child. The little girl was hospitalized, already having severe symptoms from the barbiturate pills that her mother allegedly secretly gave her to kill her, as she had done with her other two children. The child, however, at some point coughed, as if drowning and the doctors and nurses were surprised to see a pill coming out of her mouth.
The tangle of mystery and the death of the other children unfolds. The suspicions are clearly on the mother’s face.
She herself under supervision did not find another opportunity to give the medicine and the little girl’s health began to improve as if by a miracle.
He was taken to the Security and confessed to a murder and an attempt. He denied killing the first child. The unshakable evidence gathered by the authorities and the identical symptoms that the child had before he died, refuted her allegations. She was sentenced to many years in prison, attributing her act to the miserable family environment in which she lived and the oppression by her husband.
Katerina of Kordelio, Medea of 1985 has been released from prison. Nearly forty years later, she hides her dark past with the care of her daughter, that child who by chance escaped from her hands.
The “Tunnel” located her in Thessaloniki, but refused to speak.
“What are you looking for after thirty-seven years?”, Was her answer.
“Look for bones, nails and hair…”
Thirty-seven years have passed since the emeritus professor of forensic medicine and toxicology at the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Dimitris Psaroulis, had managed to solve the riddle of the case, which is very reminiscent of what the Panhellenic people in Patras are watching in shock.
The circumstances of the death of the three children, Malena, Iris and Georgina, have evoked memories from 1985 and he states in “Tunnel” that science will find the answers.
“It definitely came back to us at that time because we also had a drug poisoning. “The issue can be resolved but he wants some work.”
The experienced medical examiner emphasizes that the environment of unfortunate girls should be investigated.
“They have to take twenty hairs from one side, twenty from the other and send them for analysis to the University of Crete or Thessaloniki. The possibility of finding use in the past is possible. The drug is stored in the nails, hair and bones. And two years later, they will work. All I have heard so far are exercises on paper. “We have an objective element in our hands and that is the analysis.”
Germany: The medical examiner who “shed light” on similar murders of children, spoke to the “Tunnel”…
The medical examiner who highlighted the case of the three suspected infant deaths in Germany, spoke exclusively to “Tunnel” about how the authorities managed to clarify it, but also about the common elements with that of Patras.
“The first two death cases were registered by the competent authorities as cases of sudden infant death. However, when we received the third one, the first suspicions came to us. It is statistically unlikely that there will be accidental natural deaths of three children in the same family. In fact, it is so unlikely that for us the only logical explanation was that in all three cases we are talking about homicide. The most important and the most difficult now was how this could be proven. It is not possible for healthy young children to suddenly stop beating their hearts. But if there is something else, such as a substance that has poisoned a child, such as ketamine, we are talking about a logical cause, which could have been death. “Depending on the dosage, of course, death can occur very quickly,” said Dr. Gissen, a professor of forensic medicine at the Giessen Institute. Reinhard Detmayer.
What he said about the “weapons” of the three murders, the children’s cloths, which were the ones with which they were killed, are terrifying.
“In the case of the German children, the deaths were violent and suffocating. The mother had used a cloth on all three babies, which she had inserted into her children’s oral cavity until they died. This can lead to the injury of some vessels, so it is very important to clarify in the case of Patras if the blood stains on the cloth come from the child himself. “This can easily be found through genetic testing.”
The interview on behalf of “Tunnel” was given by colleagues Nikolaos Skritlis and Aliki Macheira, from the website of the Greek community, based in Munich, GRland.info.
“The insistence of the accused for the suffocating death of the baby…”
Roula Pispirigou is in pre-trial detention in Korydallos prison for the murder of her 9-year-old daughter, Georgina. Authorities are now dealing with the case of the three dead children as a whole.
It is being investigated whether the deaths of the two youngest girls are also murders. Two prosecutors are supervising the cases in close cooperation with the Crimes against Life Department of Attica Security.
They have decided to formally appoint two experienced medical examiners, who will jointly review the medical records of the two children and re-evaluate everything about the causes that led to their death. Until now, they were informally investigating Malena’s case and everything showed that she was leading to a suffocating death.
Iris also “spoke”…
For Iris, the evidence seems to lead to the solution of the puzzle, “showing” murder. According to secure information from the “Tunnel”, the lungs and the brain of the child “speak” and “show” suffocating death.
According to secure information, Roula Pispirigou was reportedly searching online for substances that cause death from her own device. The answers for when he made this search, will be given directly to the Investigator. Regarding the ketamine, he allegedly searched the internet for information, shortly before its arrest, and the authorities do not rule out the possibility that he did it intentionally, in order to create an alibi.
Witness testimony continues at a rapid pace. A nurse who has already spoken to the Authorities, comes to life in the “Tunnel” the moments when the 6-month-old Iris was served dead in Karamandaneio.
“The mother knelt when she asked to see the child. Manos started shouting loudly in the hospital “a doctor, a doctor, do not let my wife get hurt”… while we were all by their side, nurses, the anesthesiologist, everyone and he kept shouting. This was a bit theatrical and we looked at each other with wonder, but okay, we thought people were lost, so to speak. What surprised us was that then the father fell down and started crying and she caressed him, kissed him and said “it does not matter, we are young, we will have more children”.
He was asking about suffocating death…
The information about the visits of the accused after her husband to the forensic service of Patras after the death of Iris also causes a sensation. He persistently asked if a possible suffocating death of the baby could be detected far beyond reasonable interest.
The medical examiner asked her why she insisted on learning and the mother replied at the time that she was afraid that the cause of the child’s death was sudden infant death syndrome. The fact was confirmed to Angeliki Nikolouli by her husband Manos Daskalakis.
Read details about the case here.